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Cigarette tax has smokers fuming
The Times ^
| July 3, 2003
| TRACEY L. REGAN
Posted on 07/03/2003 7:25:50 PM PDT by Just another Joe
Edited on 07/06/2004 6:39:02 PM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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"Ridiculous! Ridiculous!" fumed Harry Desai, a convenience store owner in Trenton incensed by the latest cigarette tax increase that has the price of some brands he sells soaring to more than $6 a pack.
"They're going to get the business over there," said Desai, the owner of the Robert Lewis Store on State Street, waving vaguely toward Pennsylvania. "I want to go over there myself. I don't blame people."
(Excerpt) Read more at nj.com ...
TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; Miscellaneous; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: butts; niconazi; pufflist; smoke; smoking; taxes
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New Jerseyans withstanding such societal pressures are turning with ever-greater frequency to the Internet and neighboring states, such as Pennsylvania and Delaware, to buy their cigarettes, business groups here say.Nooooo, inappropriate taxation doesn't hurt business.
To: *puff_list; Focault's Pendulum; Gabz; SheLion; Max McGarrity
Taxes, societal ostracization, hatred - all aimed at demonization of smokers.
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posted on
07/03/2003 7:28:07 PM PDT
by
Just another Joe
(FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
To: Just another Joe
Gee, when I lived in Pennsylvania, we bought our booze in NJ.
Tit for tat, I guess.
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posted on
07/03/2003 7:28:12 PM PDT
by
annyokie
(Admin Moderator has got it in for me.)
To: Just another Joe
I'm in Missouri. Our voters VOTED DOWN a hugh tax increase on smokes...even my non smoker friends voted against it.
Now, "one term" bob holden wants to bypass the voters and "enact" legislation.
Bought a carton of Winston Lights today (w/$3.50 coupon) for just over $19.00.
C'mon over Illinoisians.
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posted on
07/03/2003 7:30:25 PM PDT
by
demsux
To: demsux
Viceroys here in Ok for $19.25. Marlboros for 24.95.
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posted on
07/03/2003 7:35:04 PM PDT
by
annyokie
(Admin Moderator has got it in for me.)
To: demsux
I'm in Mo. also. I fought against that tax increase.
Spent between $1,000 and $1,500 of my own money in gas and copying costs, not to mention time.
It was close though.
Holden is such a putz.
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posted on
07/03/2003 7:35:43 PM PDT
by
Just another Joe
(FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
To: demsux
Stuff my own for about that price using a fairly expensive tobacco, and no coupon.
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posted on
07/03/2003 7:36:38 PM PDT
by
Just another Joe
(FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
To: Just another Joe
Pretty ridiculous. Shrug.
I'm down to about 6 cigs a day, wife down to a pack.
We've been buying them from the Indians for a while now avoiding any NJ taxes.
In fact, I wish the cigarette companies would just raise their hands in a collective "you win" and go out of business.
Watch the anti-smoking nazis scratching their heads when they realize they killed their cash cow.
Watch as NC, VA and other tobacco states fall into economic hard times. No sweat really. The black market will continue to grow as it has done recently and the taxicrats will raise EVERYONE's taxes to compensate. All the anti-smoking nazis will have gotten their wish. They'll end up paying for it! Love it.
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posted on
07/03/2003 7:39:40 PM PDT
by
Malsua
To: Malsua
Do you live in NJ?
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posted on
07/03/2003 7:41:30 PM PDT
by
Just another Joe
(FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
To: Just another Joe
>>Do you live in NJ? <<
Yes.
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posted on
07/03/2003 7:42:37 PM PDT
by
Malsua
To: Just another Joe
I just go into Virginia and pay 18.99 a carton (premium Brand) Up north libs suck
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posted on
07/03/2003 7:44:58 PM PDT
by
CroftonFreeper
(Britan needs parking. Pave France.)
To: CroftonFreeper
Up north libs suckLibs ANYWHERE suck.
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posted on
07/03/2003 7:46:42 PM PDT
by
Just another Joe
(FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
To: Malsua
What are you going to do when they start taxing the internet sales?
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posted on
07/03/2003 7:47:15 PM PDT
by
Just another Joe
(FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
To: Malsua; Just another Joe
A while back I did a bit of research. Here is what I found - in 2001 the total revenue reported to the IRS from tobacco sales was $18,723,895,000.00; $$$ thru the 2nd Quarter of 2002 was $7,985,647,000.00.
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posted on
07/03/2003 8:00:27 PM PDT
by
TheMom
To: TheMom
Way lower than half for a half a year.
Doesn't surprise me. With more people buying from the net and making thier own it only follows.
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posted on
07/03/2003 8:06:20 PM PDT
by
Just another Joe
(FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
To: Just another Joe
"They see no political downside."
Now that we know what they are, we are just haggling over the price.
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posted on
07/03/2003 8:29:14 PM PDT
by
microgood
(They will all die......most of them.)
To: Just another Joe
>>What are you going to do when they start taxing the internet sales? <<
Who said I buy them on the Internet?
I have and still do on occasion, but I also drive up to the reservation and buy in the shop. It's about an hour away thru pleasant country. It's a nice saturday drive and I can wash the car on the way. Hell, I have a 55-145 minute commute, the hour to the reservation is nothing. I can spend 4 dollars in gas to save $30/pack.
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posted on
07/03/2003 8:46:41 PM PDT
by
Malsua
To: Malsua
pack=carton
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posted on
07/03/2003 8:48:54 PM PDT
by
Malsua
To: Just another Joe
Long before there were law suits against tobacco, Ohio had much higher taxes than Kentucky, so Ohioan would go across the bridge to get cigs for their family and friends. That didn't last long because they had the police watch for that sort of thing and began arresting people for it. After a hefty fine, it was no longer an attractive way to beat the tax. It could still be done by traveling further into the state but it was still a risk.
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posted on
07/03/2003 8:56:08 PM PDT
by
RJayneJ
(To see pictures of Jayne's quilt: http://bulldogbulletin.lhhosting.com/page50.htm)
To: RJayneJ
No place around here to go
Internet only for smokers in the Seattle area. 7-11 is about $50.00/carton.
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posted on
07/03/2003 9:12:28 PM PDT
by
M0sby
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